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240 months ago

Claudia (a guest user) asked this question:

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240 months ago

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Woman Restaurant Expert

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240 months ago

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(sigh) Not an idiomatic English phrase in this context. The source term means that the person has undergone formal training in the subject, not that s/he is necessarily an 'expert'. You can have a 2-year qualification at the age of 20, and that hardly makes you an 'expert'. And the gender is ignored in English.

240 months ago

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Restaurant Expert

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240 months ago

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Not an idiomatic English phrase in this context. The source term means that the person has undergone formal training in the subject, not that s/he is necessarily an 'expert'. You can have a 2-year qualification at the age of 20, and that hardly makes you an 'expert'.

240 months ago

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restaurant manager

My comment:

In this case, the term definitely means a woman

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240 months ago

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Absolutely not, and this answer was already given. A restaurateur does not have to be the manager - can be the boss of a chain but not the manager of any one restaurant, and could be the deputy manager of a restaurant. Furthermore, the term most definitely does NOT 'mean a woman'.

240 months ago

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restaurant-manager

My comment:

this professional deals with the administrative area of restaurants.

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240 months ago

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Absolutely not. For a start, you would never hyphenate this in English. Secondly, a restaurateur does not have to be the manager - can be the boss of a chain but not the manager of any one restaurant, and could be the deputy manager of a restaurant.

240 months ago

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restaurateur doesn�t match the exact meaning of the German word, as it includes the possible ownership of a restaurant. In the context of Ausbildungsberuf, which can only be explained by " professional in the business area of restaurants, who has worked for a 3-year period as an apprentice and finally passed an exam." As this is a profession one has learned, Restaurantfachfrau may be a restaurateur, but a restaurateur doesn�t have to be a Restaurantfachfrau.

240 months ago

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Which is precisely why my suggested translation is QUALIFIED restaurateur.

240 months ago

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restaurateur

My comment:

this captures both sexes otherwise: female restaurateur if definition of sex is considered vital

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240 months ago

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This does not catch the Fachfrau aspect. Anyone can set up in the restaurant business without having any Ausbildung and call themselves restaurateur, but they are not Fachmann/frau. Why do you persist in giving answers into a foreign language?

240 months ago

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Why do you persist in contracting only. If you have all the answers, why don't you give them instead? According to my understanding of Northamerican English at least, most often the gender distinction is not made, nor is the 'expert' distinction. What exactly did you have in mind?

240 months ago

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Errr .... my answer is shown on this page. Perhaps you should think first and then speak?

240 months ago

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Laugh all you like - look at when I posted mine and when you posted yours. How on earth did you get a doctorate... And obviously you don't understand the significance of 'qualified' in English, which is precisely why you should not attempt to translate into it.

240 months ago

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It most certainly was addressed by me - that's what 'qualified' means, someone who has a qualification in the subject. I have no idea whether you have a qualification in translation, but I have. As to having a degree, I was referring to reading the time of each posting :-) My background is also in science, although I also translate poetry. Pax.

240 months ago

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Why do you persist in contracting only. If you have all the answers, why don't you give them instead? According to my understanding of Northamerican English at least, most often the gender distinction is not made, nor is the 'expert' distinction. What exactly did you have in mind?

240 months ago

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restaurateur

My comment:

this captures both sexes otherwise: female restaurateur if definition of sex is considered vital

240 months ago

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qualified restaurant personal

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240 months ago

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First of all, it's personnel. Secondly, we are talking about the boss, not the staff. Are you a native English speaker?

240 months ago

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We are talking about the boss...? Restaurantfachmann/Restaurantfachfrau: Restaurantfachleute bedienen und betreuen die G�ste, sie arbeiten im Restaurant, am Buffet, in der Bar und sorgen dort f�r das entsprechende Ambiente, sprechen Empfehlungen aus, servieren Speisen und Getr�nke, erstellen die Rechnungen und kassieren. Als Repr�sentanten des Hauses sind sie f�r das Wohl der G�ste verantwortlich. Restaurantfachleute beraten die Kunden, planen, kalkulieren und organisieren Veranstaltungen f�hren diese auch durch. Aber JK muss immer das letzte Wort haben... I disagree!

240 months ago

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Perhaps because I am a native English speaker translating into English, whereas most of the posters on this page are not; translating our of your own language into a foreign one is highly unprofessional.

240 months ago

Doris Buchmann   wrote:

Restaurant professional

My comment:

I don't think gender is relevant in the context

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240 months ago

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Sorry, it doesn't sound like a phrase used by a native English speaker in this context.

240 months ago

Doris Buchmann   wrote:

Restaurant specialist (woman)

My comment:

1. BIBB / Training Profile - [ Traduzca esta p�gina ]
... <b>Restaurant specialist (m/f)</b>. Duration of traineeship. 3 years The venues for
training delivery are the training company and the vocational school ...
www.bibb.de/en/ausbildungsprofil_2271.htm - 92k

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240 months ago

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Doesn't sound remotely like a phrase used by a native English speaker in this context. The gender would never be used, and certainly NEVER in this form. The page you quote is a German one: you CANNOT rely on German websites when translating into English.

240 months ago

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From the official travel resource for the San Diego region (American Website): 1. San Diego Convention & Visitors Bureau - ... A full time restaurant specialist awaits your call to assist with your ... restaurant brochure along with a letter from our restaurant specialist for ... www.sandiego.org/planameeting/conserv_rv.asp

240 months ago

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It's still not the correct translation of the term posted. This person provides info about restaurants, not work in them as a qualified restaurateur.

240 months ago

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Perhaps because I am a native English speaker translating into English, whereas most of the posters on this page are not; translating our of your own language into a foreign one is highly unprofessional.

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240 months ago

John Kinory   wrote:

qualified restaurateur

My comment:

One tends not to distinguish between m and f professions in English.

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240 months ago

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LOL! You have basically taken my answer (which you negated) and then added 'qualified'. A restaurateur is qualified to be a resaurateur - what else may the word mean otherwise? My previous comment stays, including the gender comment, since you took that from me, too.

240 months ago

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Laugh all you like - look at when I posted mine and when you posted yours. How on earth did you get a doctorate... And obviously you don't understand the significance of 'qualified' in English, which is precisely why you should not attempt to translate into it.

240 months ago

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LOL. Ok, you win! I didn't know you had posted first, however, I was incensed when you stated that 'Fachfrau' was not being addressed by me because neither was it addressed by you! I guess you are a 'qualified' translator whereas I'm only a translator. Incidentally, my degree is in science, not in humanities.

240 months ago

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It most certainly was addressed by me - that's what 'qualified' means, someone who has a qualification in the subject. I have no idea whether you have a qualification in translation, but I have. As to having a degree, I was referring to reading the time of each posting :-) My background is also in science, although I also translate poetry. Pax.

240 months ago

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LOL! You have basically taken my answer (which you negated) and then added 'qualified'. A restaurateur is qualified to be a resaurateur - what else may the word mean otherwise? My previous comment stays, including the gender comment, since you took that from me, too.

240 months ago

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LOL. Ok, you win! I didn't know you had posted first, however, I was incensed when you stated that 'Fachfrau' was not being addressed by me because neither was it addressed by you! I guess you are a 'qualified' translator whereas I'm only a translator. Incidentally, my degree is in science, not in humanities.